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OliverJohnstone posted..

Sam that is pale reflection of what I said. My point was that there are many views as to what the plan would or should be after Brexit, not one single vision. In exactly the same way, there are a plethora of views on what our place in the EU should be if we remain.

The idea that there will be no attempt to get Britain into any of things we do not wish to be involved in is convenient but naive. All the defence experts that have entered into the debate pretty much agree that an EU army would be effectively redundant without UK participation. Indeed ever-closer union is not going to be achieved without all member buy in. Yes we are out of Schengen - fortunately we have a sizeable body of water between us and the mainland so I expect that helps considerably. However, we still have immigration levels that we have no control over and accept an enormous amount of asylum seekers on top of that.

Even if the UK was to reject a major treaty change in a referendum, I do not trust the EU bureaucracy to respect the result. You only have to look at the shocking exercise in democracy that was the Lisbon Treaty/EU Constitution.