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sam39 posted..

Oliver says: 'Turning to the idea of not having a clue what happens if we leave - it is an unfair expectation of the leave campaign in many ways. Those who want to leave are not an entity like a political party that advocates one specific policy alternative. Those who want to leave are heterogeneous and have varying opinions. The stay campaign are similarly as divided with what happens in Europe if we choose to remain, but they aren't expecting to draw up a 5 year plan.'
I have heard other leavers say this, but it is the most egregious abdication of responsibility by these irresponsible people who offer no definite future but expect us to vote for their dream. Dealing with the remain position first, we know the direction of travel the Treaties are there, Cameron has struck his deal - our vetos are intact: we will not join schengen, nor the Euro, nor an EU army, Turkey will not be in the EU, nor will we be involved in 'ever closer union' We will continue to enjoy the trading benefits of the single market and British people will continue to holiday in Spain without let or hindrance. Oliver admits Leave offer nothing - an irresponsible leap in the dark (can you tell me Oliver if I will require a visa to go to France?), as Stanley Baldwin (a conservative) said: the exercise of 'power without responsibility the prerogative of the Harlot through the ages'