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BlueGrover posted..


Thank you for your reply.

Before I set out my thoughts I want to be clear that I am not against the football teams using the playing fields and in an ideal world, we should do everything to encourage their use by providing changing facilities & parking. Unfortunately, there are conflicting priorities and most likely little if no money available.

It is interesting to know that car parking and changing rooms are a requirement of the football league that use the car park, but I don’t think that we should allow this to determine strategy. I think this is a ‘tail wagging the dog’ scenario.

What would be interesting to know is the true cost of the changing rooms. Perhaps you could ask officers of the council to prepare a report on the cost of the provision of the changing rooms minus any revenues received from the football league. We need to know if Council Tax payers are getting good value from this.

I think that we have two key issues to consider.

Firstly, the antisocial behaviour, no-one wants that, especially when it is on your doorstep! You are, quite rightly, as our Councillor looking for ways that the Council can improve the situation. I appreciate that the Council have certain obligations, but so do the police. I know from previous posts that you are already consulting with them.
Secondly, the parking challenges. As the residents parking schemes get rolled out further and further, traffic needing to park gets pushed around. To me, it makes perfect sense to make the car park into paid for public parking. I think the parking is really an issue during the day (Monday to Friday) when pay and display could apply, leaving free parking at the weekend for the footballers and users of the park.

This would still leave the car park open and free at night and does not solve the antisocial behaviour, but my suggestion of CCTV would help and additional police patrols or access to the cameras would help. The Police have to take some responsibility, if not all the responsibility once the Council have taken all appropriate steps.

I would respectfully suggest that you adopt a more ‘commercial’ approach to the problem of parking inspectors. I am guessing that the issue here is cost. What you need to do is find a way of generating revenue to pay for it. I am sure that the finance officers at the council would be able to compute projected weekly revenues from the car park if it is used for pay and display on a Monday to Friday day time basis. This would all be additional revenue to the council and any business case could use this to fund towards the cost of visits to the car park by parking inspectors.

I think we need to understand the priorities of the issues and to leave things as they are to satisfy the needs of the football league isn’t, I don’t think, the top priority. If my suggestions were to be adopted and the football league pull out from using the playing fields as a result, it would be a great shame. Unfortunately, life is full of very difficult decisions, some of which may seem very unfair, particularly if you are a member of the football league or their supporters. What we need to consider is the wider strategic picture with the challenges of crime and much less public parking space once the new parking schemes start on Mount Pleasant, Neville Street and others.

As I said at the start of my post, I have nothing against football. In fact, football is very important for not only encouraging fitness, team sports and enjoyment of the game but also hugely important economically, we need a place to discover and encourage tomorrow’s professional players.

If it is agreed that this should be the way forward, it is a big piece of work to do, it will be difficult and take a lot of your time, but a scheme of this nature would make a real difference to those affected by the antisocial behaviour issues and the wider parking problem that will surface once the new street schemes are introduced.
[/QUOTE]] A unbelievable post. The stench of NIMBY is coming from my screen.
Local football teams pay thousands of pounds every year to SMBC for the right to play on Green Lane, use the changing facilities and park there.
If your model is adopted where do you suggest these teams play and change? Do they get changed in cars? Do they go home full of mud and shower at home?
I don't believe for one second that you want football to continue at this venue. The footballers are not the cause of the ASB, it's a police issue.