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sundave
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sundave
Re: Pubs under pressure
23rd November 2007 at 8:29AM
I dont think people outside the industry fully understand the problems that publicans face on a day to day basis, if you lose 15-20 customers to a new establishment and your neighbour loses the same then your area becomes quiet, people then start to drift away because its quiet thus turning the whole thing into a rampaging snowball on a journey to the bottom of a very long slope and once youre at the bottom its damned hard to get back up again. Don't think for one moment that a group as big as barracuda who are opening smith & jones care about you and your community, hazel grove is nothing more to them than a cash cow and they will milk it until it dies and then sell it as a tax loss. Your local community pub proves its worth year in year out by giving you a place to meet your friends in familiar comfortable surroundings and the majority of hazel grove pubs give large amounts of time effort and funds to local charities and sports clubs and other organisations, just look at the carnival without the pubs it wouldnt survive. BIG THINGS KILL LITTLE THINGS but if a group of little things got together maybe the big thing might just bugger off and leave us to get on with our lives. P.S. Have any of the readers out there ever thought to speak to a landlord about what you might like to see happening in your local he or she would probably welcome some fresh ideas cos we enjoy being in the pub with you and joining in with whatever you are doing (providing its legal of course). see you all soon, dont be shy, talk to us we dont bite.
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Babs
Villager

Babs
Re: Pubs under pressure
23rd November 2007 at 8:33AM
Unfortunately all the little shops are shutting which is a crying shame who do you blame? well from what i have seen the council are allowing to many bars/pubs and big names to take over and completely ruin the village, as was,when i moved here 30 odd years ago it was so nice to wonder up the grove and use all the little shops ie the cheese shop,the fish shop but that is no more. I understand time moves on but it should be for the better not worse. The shops are having to put shutters on because it cost so much to have them replaced when the bloody mined idiots smash them for what they see as fun a bit of a laugh,bet they wouldn't laugh if there windows were smashed for a laugh.
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BlueGrover
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BlueGrover
Re: Pubs under pressure
23rd November 2007 at 11:20AM
[QUOTE=sundave]I dont think people outside the industry fully understand the problems that publicans face on a day to day basis, if you lose 15-20 customers to a new establishment and your neighbour loses the same then your area becomes quiet, people then start to drift away because its quiet thus turning the whole thing into a rampaging snowball on a journey to the bottom of a very long slope and once youre at the bottom its damned hard to get back up again. Don't think for one moment that a group as big as barracuda who are opening smith & jones care about you and your community, hazel grove is nothing more to them than a cash cow and they will milk it until it dies and then sell it as a tax loss. Your local community pub proves its worth year in year out by giving you a place to meet your friends in familiar comfortable surroundings and the majority of hazel grove pubs give large amounts of time effort and funds to local charities and sports clubs and other organisations, just look at the carnival without the pubs it wouldnt survive. BIG THINGS KILL LITTLE THINGS but if a group of little things got together maybe the big thing might just bugger off and leave us to get on with our lives. P.S. Have any of the readers out there ever thought to speak to a landlord about what you might like to see happening in your local he or she would probably welcome some fresh ideas cos we enjoy being in the pub with you and joining in with whatever you are doing (providing its legal of course). see you all soon, dont be shy, talk to us we dont bite.

A well balanced thread Sun Dave.
The pubs I frequent are trying to do different things, but the problem is many people have already given up the ghost and resorted to buying beer at cheaper outlets.
The traditional local is really struggling to keep up with other leisure activities avaliable.
I hope your regulars (and non regulars) keep The Sun high in the sky!
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Babs
Villager

Babs
Re: Pubs under pressure
24th November 2007 at 6:49AM
BlueGrover Wrote:

[QUOTE=sundave]I dont think people outside the industry fully understand the problems that publicans face on a day to day basis, if you lose 15-20 customers to a new establishment and your neighbour loses the same then your area becomes quiet, people then start to drift away because its quiet thus turning the whole thing into a rampaging snowball on a journey to the bottom of a very long slope and once youre at the bottom its damned hard to get back up again. Don't think for one moment that a group as big as barracuda who are opening smith & jones care about you and your community, hazel grove is nothing more to them than a cash cow and they will milk it until it dies and then sell it as a tax loss. Your local community pub proves its worth year in year out by giving you a place to meet your friends in familiar comfortable surroundings and the majority of hazel grove pubs give large amounts of time effort and funds to local charities and sports clubs and other organisations, just look at the carnival without the pubs it wouldnt survive. BIG THINGS KILL LITTLE THINGS but if a group of little things got together maybe the big thing might just bugger off and leave us to get on with our lives. P.S. Have any of the readers out there ever thought to speak to a landlord about what you might like to see happening in your local he or she would probably welcome some fresh ideas cos we enjoy being in the pub with you and joining in with whatever you are doing (providing its legal of course). see you all soon, dont be shy, talk to us we dont bite.

A well balanced thread Sun Dave.
The pubs I frequent are trying to do different things, but the problem is many people have already given up the ghost and resorted to buying beer at cheaper outlets.
The traditional local is really struggling to keep up with other leisure activities avaliable.
I hope your regulars (and non regulars) keep The Sun high in the sky!


Sundave & bluegrover
You are both so right. and i too hope you keep The Sun high in the sky.(What a brilliant quote)

what about a sundave/bluegrover campaign to save the Hg pubs.(beats singing in the park!)
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G&T
Drifter
Re: Pubs under pressure
29th November 2007 at 12:05PM
I have heard that the new bar/pub whatever it is may not be opening now,i was told that it may be going to poynton.
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nedsram
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nedsram
Re: Pubs under pressure
3rd December 2007 at 12:27PM
I've heard nothing about a new bar/pub in Poynton, although there were rumours that the Brays outlet shop might be converted to an eaterie.
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Babs
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Babs
Re: Pubs under pressure
5th December 2007 at 6:29PM
Unfortunatly to have children in a pub you need to have a childrens licence which inturn means the landlord/landlady has to pay to have plans drawn up and the way things are with the pubs at the moment i dont think many can afford this,the same applies to a play area this is also very expensive due to plans and insurance,(i too have asked the question)it would seem that the pubs are not getting any help from the councils at the moment.It is so sad to see sum of the hazel grove pubs going to the dogs and i bet the landlords/landladies feel very let down as they have worked hard to make a living.
What will happen to the pubs where the landlords/landladies are leaving? I would be surprised if they stay as pubs because who wants to take on a pub that is not making money.
They may well become another wine bar.

Has anyone ever counted how many pubs/wine bars are in hazel grove? I have just done a quick count 18 and that is just down the A6.

Anyway adora if im still around i will help with chirstmas 2008, but im looking at moving on,iv lived here for thirty odd years and it breaks my heart to see what is happening to the grove.
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Anon
Drifter
Re: Pubs under pressure
6th December 2007 at 5:19AM
In response to the person who says a drink at Zuri cost 350, I think they've been ripped off, I certainly didn't pay 350 for a drink when I went in there!

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