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Coleman
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Coleman
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
14th July 2011 at 3:58AM
Guest Wrote:

what an earth has the head teacher got to do with it at hghs if it is out of school hours ??? they might have a uniform on but the headteacher has no say in what they do when they leave the school grounds.


Your wrong there! Whether or not they are supposed to be able to the schools DO often act on the students behaviour outside of school. Even if it's just a general telling off or actual punishments such as suspension or expulsion!

It's only like if you wore a work uniform and committed some form of public order offence (or even just something they don't want you doing like smoking in public) your employer could and in many cases would punish or even sack you!
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Prodigal
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Prodigal
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
14th July 2011 at 6:02AM, Edit: 14th July 2011 at 6:03AM by Prodigal
Before we moved back to the Grove, we had a problem with some of the local school kids, because of the position of our house, it was quicker for the kids to hop through our front garden to the bus stop, an e-mail to the head put a stop to it, and had a follow up e-mail with an apology on behalf of the school, stating any more problems, don't hesitate to get in touch. So getting in touch with the school, more often than not, does work.
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linda27
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linda27
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
14th July 2011 at 7:16AM
IT might be worth ringing up the school and letting them know that there are kids from the school drinking in the park.after all they are brnging the school a bad name.kids hey drinking whatever next.
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Climate
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Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
14th July 2011 at 8:27AM
They say a picture paints a thousand words...

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linda27
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linda27
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
14th July 2011 at 10:59AM
ive just received a email about this sort of behaviour telling me about the kids drinking in thelocal parks.so it might just work.lets hope so theres nothing worse that a foul mouth child.but theses days that all the words they seem to know.well some kids anyway.
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Adora
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Adora
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
28th July 2011 at 3:49PM

Just out walking the dog and saw the skate park gates have been chained up and locked, red tape across both and chalk sign saying "Keep Out - Ramps Vandalised".

Three or four holes punched in to the wooden ramps and the other one seems to have been ripped at the top.

Summer holidays just starting and skate park out of commission - damn.
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fudgepanda
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fudgepanda
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
19th February 2013 at 11:40PM
Coleman Wrote:

PCSO's are a complete waste of time and money, they don't have any power and the kids know it!

I remember years back we were having a kick about on a local field when one of these plastic police turned up and tried telling us we had to move on as we were apparently breaking all manor of laws! (we weren't by the way!)

Obviously this guy thought he was special and got some sort of power rush from it. We even then (PCSO's were a new thing) knew they were powerless so refused to move and continued with our kick about. He had no other option to radio a real police officer who proceeded to tell him "stop being a t**t"

Point is why do we have them in the first place? The only function i can see is that they are and extra pair of eyes for the police.

I stand by my suggestion, I hear the current HGHS head is a right piece of work so have no doubt that she will take action if kids are causing trouble whilst wearing the uniform. the head would and often did when i was there years ago.

Mmm, quite a lot of anti-PCSO posts, perhaps you'd like a Police Officer to attend instead. Oh, that's right, there aren't any because they're all dealing with crimes as opposed to nuisance. As the admin following most actions carried out by PCs has got longer and more involved there is less and less time for them to be on patrol. When they're not carrying out paperwork they will usually be found responding to an incident; break in, vandalism, domestic violence, sudden death, concern for welfare, road traffic collision and the like. Of course they could always recruit more Police Officers but that costs money and not many people would like an increase in their income tax/council tax. With regards to youths, Police Officers don't really have any more power than PCSOs, and as a common retort to PCs chasing off youths causing annoyance is "why don't you go and catch a murderer", you might be able to understand why they'd rather not be dealing with kids in the park. PCSOs on the other hand have the time to spend with them, and if the answer to why they're causing a nuisance is "We're bored" then often things can be found for them to do, as has been the case in most areas of Greater Manchester. As someone correctly pointed out, the PCSOs tend to know most of the youths who do cause trouble and that infromation starts to be passed on as Intelligence. If a problem persists, then through the local Inspector, Exclusion Orders can be made to make sure the problems don't persist. These Orders can't exist without intelligence and that usually comes from the much maligned PCSOs. As for their powers, someone under the age of 16 can't be issued with a PND (Penalty Notice for Disorder) by either a PC or PCSO. By spending time with youths, PCSOs can often separate the ringleaders from the hangers on and by warning the parents of the hangers on, they are often able to avoid some kids from taking the wrong turning. Without their acolytes, the disruptive ones usually get bored and move on.
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happy
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happy
Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
23rd February 2013 at 12:45PM
Hmm as far as the comment made "Ms Nolan" is a right 1, that is sooooo true....and she does not like any bad behaviour going on out of school if "They are in uniform" so she would listen to these issues. And they should also deal with these as its spoiling equipment for others (why cant some of these kids just respect things)
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HG-21
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Re: Torkington Park after 5pm
23rd February 2013 at 1:11PM
You're commenting on a topic from 18 months ago.
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