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RunningWalker
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RunningWalker
Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynton
5th November 2012 at 10:47PM
Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynton.
A SEMMMS opportunity?
In 1993 Coal Contractors Limited, now a
subsidiary company of Hall Construction (' extensive interests in mineral
recovery'), made an application to extract 250,000 tonnes of coal through
an open cast method of mining, to the east of Towers Road and to the South
of Norbury Brook. There was considerable local opposition to this
application through a well organised campaign which was supported by the
area's Councillors and MP's.

The scheme was eventually rejected in 1996, following an appeal by Coal
Contractors.

All well and good, but there are a few points we should note:

·        One big benefit, according to Coal Contractors, was that the site
was adjacent to the then proposed MAELR (and the current SEMMMS route) and
therefore offered a unique opportunity to mitigate against one of the most
intrusive environmental impacts during road construction - that of lorry
traffic moving for disposal, over 2,000,000 cubic metres of earth and rock,
dug out as part of the road building programme. The scheme, very
generously, would take all that spoil and stuff it back into the hole left
following extraction of the coal. Apart from removing over 300,000 lorry
journeys from local roads, it was estimated that road building costs for
the bypass would be ' in the order of £6.5 million' (1993 prices!).

·        In addition, there would be further substantial reductions in
lorry traffic and extra savings for the road building scheme as a result of
the provision of large volumes of sandstone from the site for use in the
construction of the road.

Now, I am not a budding mineral extraction entrepreneur, but if I was, I
might want to resurrect this once failed open cast mining scheme.

Ironically enough, there is a man not a million miles away from here who
may be ambivalent about such an extraction scheme. Here is what he said in
2011:

*The extraction of coal is different from other considerations. The
operation is not permanent or long term, and nowadays there are now always
requirements for the restoration of land to high environmental standards,
which can sometimes involve great biodiversity benefits.*

*The period of extraction will vary considerable, depending on the
availability of resources, but most coal operations last for a far shorter
period than stone extraction or crushed rock operations, for example.
However, I recognise that three or five years-or perhaps longer-is still a
considerable time for local people to put up with such development, which
is why environmental effects are properly considered at the outset and
monitored throughout the life of a site's operation. It also explains why
it is important that we get the right balance between the need for coal on
the one hand, and coal extractions environmental impact on local
communities on the other hand.*

Yes, this is our local MP Andrew Stunell, speaking for the Government, and
against a private members bill - the Planning (Opencast Mining Separation
Zones) Bill - which sought to extend separation between residential
properties and open cast mining to a distance of 500 metres. This Bill has
now lapsed and an attempt to get the 500 metre separation zone inserted
into the Localism Bill also failed. As a result opencast mining can come as
close to your back garden as the developer likes (unlike in Scotland and
Wales, where separation zones have been adopted).

Incidentally, there were approximately 39 properties within 200 metres of
the Towers Farm project, with a further 311 properties within 400 metres.

Little point then in asking Andrew Stunell if he would support 500 metre
separation between the back of our properties and the proposed SEMMMS road!
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Dolores
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Dolores
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
6th November 2012 at 3:28PM
Yet more substance added to PAULA's belief that this is not just a road. It will bring a huge amount of development with it - be it businesses, homes or open-cast mines. As Mark Hunter MP admitted in his bumbling interview on Pure 107.8 recently, nobody can guarantee that the land around the road won't be developed in future.
Imagine a B&Q, a Tesco, a housing estate springing up and the extra traffic that would bring, not to mention the pollution, carbon emissions and further erosion of the green belt.
When you look at the map showing the new road as a single line snaking across, imagine it five times as wide and treble all the projected traffic figures - that will take you somewhere close to the truth.
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Steve Leary
Drifter
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
7th November 2012 at 4:58PM
Hello from The Loose Anti Opencast Network (you can find us on Google)

I co-ordinate a national group which links together groups opposing current actual and potential opencast mine sites across the UK. Presently we, the Loose Anti Opencast Network know of 22 such sites, 14 of which are in England. So far we are not aware of this being considered again, though if any development is being mooted (road building or other froms of development, according to current planning policy the developer is likely to be under an obkigation to get the coal out first

As for the 500m Buffer Zone Bill which Andrew Stunnell MP talked out (I watched!!) most of the research on the evidence on the degree of inequality on mineral planning policy for surface mined coal was produced by one of the groups in the Network, the Minorca Opencast Protest Group.

If you want more information on opencast coal mining in general or The Loose Anti Opencast Network you can contact me via infoatlaon@yahoo.com

Steve Leary, Co-ordinator, The Loose Anti Opencast Network
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noroadm
Banned
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
8th January 2013 at 3:09PM
Dolores Wrote:

Yet more substance added to PAULA's belief that this is not just a road. It will bring a huge amount of development with it - be it businesses, homes or open-cast mines. As Mark Hunter MP admitted in his bumbling interview on Pure 107.8 recently, nobody can guarantee that the land around the road won't be developed in future.
Imagine a B&Q, a Tesco, a housing estate springing up and the extra traffic that would bring, not to mention the pollution, carbon emissions and further erosion of the green belt.
When you look at the map showing the new road as a single line snaking across, imagine it five times as wide and treble all the projected traffic figures - that will take you somewhere close to the truth.


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Well said Dolores   - agreed
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nedsram
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nedsram
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
17th January 2013 at 7:53PM
If there was any truth in this rumour we would be aware of it in Poynton. But we have heard not a thing along these lines. However that won't stop people from speculating on open cast mines, Tesco, B&Q, new housing estates and so on being an inevitable consequence of the new relief road (MAELR).

For the record, Handforth Dean and part of Cheadle Royal were built on brownfield sites, and the bypass was partly funded by the likes of Tesco, Sainsbury's and John Lewis. I am not aware of any funding agreements of this type as far as MAELR is concerned.
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noroadm
Banned
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
18th January 2013 at 8:29AM, Edit: 18th January 2013 at 8:30AM by noroadm
.. This was the first question asked at the local community forum meeting BEFORE the meeting ever started

An uncomfortable air decended upon the council (s )

It is more that just a rumour


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noroadm
Banned
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
8th February 2013 at 9:13AM
Please can this be merged with the Semms A6 group as it is to do with the road

Thanks
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Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
28th February 2013 at 12:44AM
Can I please request some support in signing a petition to the WAG re: making the 500m bufferzone in Wales a LAW, not just a guideline.


This is a test case - if we can achieve it here, then it should be national LAW......

https://www.assemblywales.org/gethome/e-petitions/epetition-list-of-signatories.htm?pet_id=864&showfrm=0

Thankyou.
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noroadm
Banned
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
8th April 2013 at 1:46PM
will do
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Norma_Stitts
Supervised

Norma_Stitts
Re: Open Cast Coal extraction, Towers Farm, Poynto
8th April 2013 at 9:54PM
When I spotted that this had been bumped and the title involved coal I was expecting it to be linked to the passing of Baroness Thatcher in some way?

I should have known that it was noroadm adding nothing to a thread 6 weeks later...
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