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Drifter
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 12:20PM
Drifter Wrote:

Just reading today's men news about the bypass given the go ahead and they want to call it the queen Elizabeth 2 way if they're allowed!
So if it's been given the go ahead, can any cllrs please tell us what happens now, when will affected residents be receiving any letters etc about consultation and compensation!
At least I'll get a few quid out of it if it's going to affect me, I've heard residents affected by Alderney edge bypass was given around 30k on average!
Ps anyone going to the high lane meeting on the 5th April?
Hi Glen

Dont hold your breath, you wont be eligible for compensation until the road has been open for a year, unless the cllrs can tell me different.

Cllrs, how about getting some estate agents involved to calculate the anticipated drop in house prices for the residents effected. That way you can arrange compensation early, we can sell our properties at reduced prices and move on to somewhere else.
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Glen
Drifter
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 1:16PM
Hi pal, I've been looking this info up and you are correct that you can't claim compo untill after a year of opening then it must satisfy 5 things that affected your property, ruining the view isn't one of them!!
Either way I'm pretty certain I'll be getting something with the rd so close, if this rds being built I'm gonna screw thrm for as much as I can!!!
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Drifter
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 4:26PM
Drifter Wrote:

Hi pal, I've been looking this info up and you are correct that you can't claim compo untill after a year of opening then it must satisfy 5 things that affected your property, ruining the view isn't one of them!!
Either way I'm pretty certain I'll be getting something with the rd so close, if this rds being built I'm gonna screw thrm for as much as I can!!!
You do that, and dont listen to cllr hog regarding "The meeting with Andrew Stunell MP is a bit premature". Cllrs dont like residents making waves that may delay projects, but it is you life being adversely effected, not theirs. If they cared so much about the effects on residents, they would be consulting with them NOW, not when the planning application goes in during Sept. What is going to change at that point, nothing, they will just be paying lip service to residents concerns.
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Drifter
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 4:31PM
Letís face it; the major congestion in HG is caused by historic idiotic planning decisions at the North end of Hazel Grove having a concertina effect on the traffic flow, to many supermarkets and traffic lights. The new road will alleviate traffic congestion for a short period and then demand will catch up including traffic from the hundreds of new houses on Mirrless heading to access it. It looks like there will be no access from Woodford road so the nearest access point will be Macclesfield road as everyone will avoid High Lane due to two sets of traffic lights in half a mile on the relief road. What does that all add up to, congestion at both ends of Hazel Grove.

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cllrkevinhogg
Hazel Grove Councillor

cllrkevinhogg
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 5:08PM
In my case drifter/guest you couldn`t be more wrong I love to hear peoples views and when they make waves it is brilliant I can listen and it helps form my opinions strange kind of politition aren`t I.
We could live in Syria see how much notice polititions take over there and be glad our listen even if it is only sometimes.
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Robot69
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Robot69
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 8:27PM
Drifter Wrote:

Letís face it; the major congestion in HG is caused by historic idiotic planning decisions at the North end of Hazel Grove having a concertina effect on the traffic flow, to many supermarkets and traffic lights. The new road will alleviate traffic congestion for a short period and then demand will catch up including traffic from the hundreds of new houses on Mirrless heading to access it. It looks like there will be no access from Woodford road so the nearest access point will be Macclesfield road as everyone will avoid High Lane due to two sets of traffic lights in half a mile on the relief road. What does that all add up to, congestion at both ends of Hazel Grove.


Its harsh to blame planners as the A6 even without Sainsburys or even the lights there when the old road was used to join the A6 (this is stretching my memory) the A6 has been busy for decades which is why there was a need to the Hazel Grove by-pass Ė the proper one and not the one some politicians are touting as the HG by-pass AKA A6 M/cr Airport Relief Road.

I donít think the new houses will have any major effect than the state it was in when Mirrlees was at its height Ė the traffic used to back up to the swimming baths and sometimes beyond.

I think the biggest plus is getting some of the big lorries from the Peaks who are trying to get to the M56/M6. They will be the ones taken out of the centre of HG and onto the by-pass errm, sorry the relief road.

But all the surveys in the world stand for nowt until the new road arrives and the road users decide which road they will use Ė nowt stranger than folk that planners cant anticipate!

Would be nice to have a timetable of activities (I have asked before but was ignored by the other cnlr) i.e when is consultation, when is final design, when the first hole dug and when is it to be completed by. Iím sure there are other official activities in between. Iím surprised the councillors havenít had a jamboree to some foreign country to pretend to look at a similar road layout (Amsterdam!).
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Robot69
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Robot69
Re: Bypass
28th March 2012 at 8:31PM
cllrkevinhogg Wrote:

In my case drifter/guest you couldn`t be more wrong I love to hear peoples views and when they make waves it is brilliant I can listen and it helps form my opinions strange kind of politition aren`t I.
We could live in Syria see how much notice polititions take over there and be glad our listen even if it is only sometimes.

You politicians are a breed; You're comparing life in Syria to HG then another one (maybe you as well) was comparing a powerstation vs mobile phone aerial. I'll follow the trend; hard working, honourable, straight forward and honest talker vs a local politician.
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cllrkevinhogg
Hazel Grove Councillor

cllrkevinhogg
Re: Bypass
29th March 2012 at 11:04AM
Come down out of your tree Robot
probable time table coming up.
September this year planning application in and consultations underway
November /December this year Planning application decided (could slip a month due to result of consultations
spring next year 2013 likely public enquiry to sort out compensation and final tweaks.
will take some months to complete
end of next year tender documents out
spring 2014 contractor appointed and start time and construction period decided, in place and digging begins.
The best I can do I`m afraid but close to what is expected

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Robot69
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Robot69
Re: Bypass
29th March 2012 at 11:11AM
Thanks for the timetable
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Robot69
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Robot69
Re: Bypass
31st March 2012 at 12:50PM
Slightly different dates but not far out

Public consultation in the forthcoming months
Planning permission late 2012
Contractor will be appointed during 2013
start Autumn 2014
Open early 2017

Cost £290m, £165 from Government the rest from GM Transport Fund
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