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Damien
Villager

Damien
Re: Let me get this straight...
24th June 2013 at 1:14PM
Norma_Stitts Wrote:

iancook Wrote:

Don't worry, Paula members and Ian do still monitor the comments being put on this local site, but we have decided that there is little point in getting into verbal squabbles with people that don't care or want to understand the bigger issues.


Do you not think that could be viewed completely differently? Maybe it is yourself that isn't taking into account the 'bigger issues', namely employment, improved transport links, better infrastructure, improved commerce for the North West etc?

I think so.


I can't agree more with you Norma! I thought PAULA was all about saving a "protected woodland"? Which must still be the case as Ian wants people to tie them selves to the trees! Speaking of these magical trees, I am sure I read that the Government agreed to protect the trees and the road will now be going round them?


As for the original topic, I hate to admit it but maybe Glenandem was right all along. Maybe a roundabout would be the best solution here?
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cllrkevinhogg
Hazel Grove Councillor

cllrkevinhogg
Re: Let me get this straight...
24th June 2013 at 1:24PM
the only thing that will give proper relief to H.G. is the complete link to bredbury and the airport but government wont finance it at this time.
To refuse to build the first part of it is crazy in my opinion, it would have been better to build the half to bredbury first but as this is entirely in Stockport it was unaffordable instead 3 local councils pooled money and the airport chipped in to get matched funding from the DOT to at least start this road.
Once it is uderway campaigning will begin to build the other half. If this takes the same time as the first half I probably won`t see it built. But without the airport link the Grove will never see a bypass.
As for the traffic lights versus an underpass, this would require the take of land to be much greater as slip roads wuold be require this would move the road closer to Darley road residents and require most of brookside garden centers parking space.
One poster actually suggests a roundabout not a bad suggestion and one I will raise with the team.
Mini roundabouts like Poynton at Sainsburies however is silly, have you seen the traffic back up they cause on macc rd. As a regular user of this I can confirm it is much worse than before, some times backing up to the HG boundary.
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hellonpluto
Villager

hellonpluto
Re: Let me get this straight...
24th June 2013 at 4:04PM, Edit: 24th June 2013 at 4:10PM by hellonpluto
why are people so bothered about trees? Cut them down make some paper or burn them in your house. What do you think cavemen did? Once the road is finished just plant some more; jobs a good'un, just like they did at the new alderly edge bypass.

Oh, who the hell is PAULA?
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glenandem
Citizen

glenandem
Re: Let me get this straight...
24th June 2013 at 4:11PM
Top man for responding cllr Hogg, always nice to hear a cllrs viewpoint!
I agree on some of your points but others I disagree with!
Firstly I think most people are starting to agree with me that if this link road goes ahead then roundabouts would have been better options especially around Simpsons as its the main junction joining the already busy but flowing area of the a6 unless main traffic hours due to lights In the morning causing tailback up to high lane sometimes and at night backing down into the grove from you guessed it lights at windlehurst!
It was actually an option years ago to have a roundabout there but that disapeared and we never got an option on that?
As regards sainsburys lights, a roundabout was also an option years ago if I remember rightly but something to do with the pub being listed it couldn't be considered?, I do disagree with you about poynton lights and the new roundabout, although its abit confusing I don't think traffics any worse, I'd say in my oppinion it's about the same if not a tiny bit better, I'm not sure how it would work at sainsburys though but I do know that whoever the road traffic manager is in Stockport needs to get to sainsburys and try to figure something out there as I personally feel if you sort that area of lights out and get traffic flowing you'll ease congestion and cut down on the emission problem that the grove has?
Finally I 100% agree that the full road to bredbury m60 would really help not only the grove but bredbury marple and many other areas unbelievably but I just think that section will never ever go ahead in a million years even if this section goes ahead, I mean if this section is only 6 miles long and cost 290 mill, that section I believe is longer and has to go right underground and last time I looked it was estimated to cost something like 600 million and if as you say that half is only Stockport council rather than a collaboration of 3 councils like the airport link rd than there's no chance of it going ahead and residents of hazel grove and other surrounding areas like high lane disley etc that have had estimates of rising traffic from the link rd will be heaped in more misery and traffic!
By coincidence I recieved a letter today from anouther solicitor today asking to act on my behalf for compo lol!
That's about the 5th company I've had contact me now and I know you can't even start a claim untill after the link road has been built and been there something like a year?
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Norma_Stitts
Supervised

Norma_Stitts
Re: Let me get this straight...
2nd July 2013 at 1:43AM
hellonpluto Wrote:

why are people so bothered about trees? Cut them down make some paper or burn them in your house. What do you think cavemen did? Once the road is finished just plant some more; jobs a good'un, just like they did at the new alderly edge bypass.

Oh, who the hell is PAULA?


I agree completely Helen.

PAULA are a series of annoying, hypocritical muppets who decided to roll the dice when buying a property then cry like little girls when it went against them. Ian is a classic example, he copy/posts utter tripe on here (as shown on this thread again), he vanishes for months then says he has been away but constantly fails to answer questions which in turn discredits him and his fellow 'boring do-gooders with an agenda' more harm than good.

PAULA is a really poor acronym 'Poynton residents Against Unnecessary Link roads to the Airport'. They should have stuck to eating Worthers Originals, reading the legal pack when they bought a house instead of being a series of annoying old duffers IMO. They probably all live in Clumber house or whatever that old folks home in Poynton is called?
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happy
Townsperson

happy
Re: Let me get this straight...
2nd July 2013 at 1:07PM
Yes its clumber house Norma my grandad is ill in there!! I do agree when people buy houses they should not moan afterwards, maybe research the area more and think about "if" any roads or retirement homes are gonna be built in area
if you arent going to like that happening dont buy a house there then!! :/
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slim
Townsperson

slim
Re: Let me get this straight...
2nd July 2013 at 1:28PM
I agree on the compensation issue the possibility of some sort of major road being built has been known for 50+years so if you bought your house within the last 50 years you knew it might happen so I wouldn't be paying them anything .
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glenandem
Citizen

glenandem
Re: Let me get this straight...
2nd July 2013 at 3:28PM
Just as well you don't make the decisions then lol!
I knew it was in the pipeline when I bought my house but the way it runs near my house was second option and has now become first option as its cheaper to build the road that way from what I've been told and researched even though it could cause more traffic, it's all about getting it built cheaper rather than cost more and help traffic flow!
I'm happy for the relief road for the airport to go ahead if it helps hazel grove traffic and not just helping to get rid of traffic from the airport and I'll get my compo but I fear it will only bring more traffic as per most discussions with residents and even the councils statistics if you believe them say traffic will rise around my area?
Also when I bought mine the plan was scrapped again like it has for the last 50 years as you say?
Some people honestly believe that if this section goes ahead it will open the door for the other section to bredbury but there's no way that will happen due to costs etc if we're being honest?
Actually had anouther letter a few days ago from anouther claims specialist asking me to sign with thrm to make a component claim the other day, that's about 4 in the last few months!
Must know there's money to be made out of the gov or council lol but from what I've read you can't even begin a claim untill the road has been open a year before you can even begin to make a claim then they have to look into certain factors.
As regards the people knew it was going to happen and shouldn't get compo claims I agree with that to some aspect but do you think maybe the council should have bought all the house along the route rather than pay compo as Somone would have to buy them houses as there's alot over the route of the airport relief road route and as we know and you say it's been over 50 years in the making, thats along time for houses to be empty or the council to sit on them, maybe they could have rented them out as if there was no compo people wouldn't have bought them and there would be alot of empty homes.
I presume it's cheaper to pay compo in the long run then buy houses outright and sit on them for 50 years?
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Norma_Stitts
Supervised

Norma_Stitts
Re: Let me get this straight...
2nd July 2013 at 8:50PM
I've had a fablon idea.

I'm going to go out and buy a car, have an HPI check done on it then if it has existing finance on it rather than running a mile I'm going to set up a campaign group to lobby and pressure those that didn't ignore the HPI check.

I will call my group 'DEBRA TOC' - Dudes with Existing Balances Registered Against Their Own Car.

doh rotfl
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Serenity
Citizen

Serenity
Re: Let me get this straight...
3rd July 2013 at 7:19AM, Edit: 3rd July 2013 at 8:27AM by Serenity
The real issue for most people is the promise given way back when which clearly stated that this new so called relieve road (the clues in the name) would ease the congested traffic from the surrounding areas. Forget about the other issues and the promise of future links, just show me anything in the present that still supports this promise. I think you'll be hard pushed to find anything Norma...

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