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Coleman
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Coleman
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 3:43PM
I'm not disagreeing with you as such, just pointing out that a) Those who will be closer to the new road are no more important than those who already live as close to the A6 for instance and b) the WHO and all the other Health boffins come up with a new cancer causing thing every couple of months or so, and often they are things we all have in our lives and have had for years!

I would expect that the new road will be designed to fulfil as many needs and wants as possible. I've often thought that all Motorways and large roads should be tree lined to 3-4 trees thick! It would serve several proposes, it would help to cut out noise, would look nicer and would go some way (albeit no where near all the way) towards collecting some of the carbon given off by the cars!
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Jack Black
Drifter
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 3:54PM
Coleman Wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you as such, just pointing out that a) Those who will be closer to the new road are no more important than those who already live as close to the A6 for instance and b) the WHO and all the other Health boffins come up with a new cancer causing thing every couple of months or so, and often they are things we all have in our lives and have had for years!

I would expect that the new road will be designed to fulfil as many needs and wants as possible. I've often thought that all Motorways and large roads should be tree lined to 3-4 trees thick! It would serve several proposes, it would help to cut out noise, would look nicer and would go some way (albeit no where near all the way) towards collecting some of the carbon given off by the cars!


I think the reason youdon't see trees next to motorways and dual carriageways is because if anyone comes off the road then it is almost guaranteed death.
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Coleman
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Coleman
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 4:32PM
They wouldn't have to be on the hard shoulder 10ft back would work. Then if anyone comes off they have the arrest barrier and a small run off!
So even if the car manages to get through the barrier and across the run off a tree will give a little, where as a concrete bridge won't!
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TM
Drifter
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 4:33PM
I wouldn’t worry too much about the carbon emissions generated by the new relief road. According to the draft business case being put forward,

“The scheme is expected to have a neutral impact on carbon emissions. The reduction in through traffic in congested urban centres will offset the small increase in carbon emissions generated by new trips on the highway network.”

Obviously no future increase in traffic volume then or will we all be driving electric cars by then.
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guest
Drifter
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 10:05PM
Trees kill road noise as do tall wooden fence panels at the side of these types of roads. Maybe not to immediately adjacent land but more distant.

But they also have a negative effect. Snow drops on the road rather than it being blow off it becasue the air flow is slowed.
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Limecat
Banned
Re: Bypass
14th June 2012 at 11:01PM
Drifter Wrote:

Coleman Wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you as such, just pointing out that a) Those who will be closer to the new road are no more important than those who already live as close to the A6 for instance and b) the WHO and all the other Health boffins come up with a new cancer causing thing every couple of months or so, and often they are things we all have in our lives and have had for years!

I would expect that the new road will be designed to fulfil as many needs and wants as possible. I've often thought that all Motorways and large roads should be tree lined to 3-4 trees thick! It would serve several proposes, it would help to cut out noise, would look nicer and would go some way (albeit no where near all the way) towards collecting some of the carbon given off by the cars!


I think the reason youdon't see trees next to motorways and dual carriageways is because if anyone comes off the road then it is almost guaranteed death.


You haven't been down the new Alderley bypass then? Plenty of new trees along both sides to soak up the carbon monoxide. They aren't exactly what I would call established but it negates the point you are trying to make.

As someone who has regularly posted that I used to race down bypasses at 150MPH or so I can assure you that anyone who makes a mess of it in a straight line and is incapable of catching it is incomptent behind the wheel.

I have had blow outs on FWD cars with small offsets on the wheels at above motorway speeds, I have never had an accident due to it. (Google 'negative scrub geometry').

You are clutching at straws.
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Suspension Set
Drifter
Re: Bypass
15th June 2012 at 12:53PM
You do make me laugh Climate - tell me, how much negative camber were you running causing your blow out?
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Glen
Drifter
Re: Bypass
17th June 2012 at 10:31PM
Does anyone know what's going on with the bypass scheme, I believe the route was to be finalised any time soon but when do residents get to appeal or oppose against any parts of it?
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