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HGrover
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HGrover
Re: Green Lane Car Park
8th March 2016 at 4:26PM
Serenity Wrote:


HGrover I understand that the parking is getting worse and why? Why are the local residents having to pay to park on the road where they live? Why are we even being asked to consider turning our recreational grounds car park into overflow car park for the hospitsl?

Yes the hospital has grown and is continuing to grow and that is the problem the parking facilities within the hospital haven’t grown with it. This is where the real heart of the problem lies and has done for years and years, but unfortunately for the local residents nothing been done to try to sort the lack of parking facilities out. That's really pushing the problem on in my eyes.

If Green Lane car park became pay and display it would increase the flow of traffic to the area and we already suffer badly now, due to drivers looking for free parking spaces instead of paying to park at the hospital.Which you can't blame them.

All of these problems are not the local residents fault but we're made to pay the price by increased traffic and continued parking issues and now were having to pay to park on the road where we live due to congested parking issues.

The parking problems need to be dealt with at source and not turning the nearby streets and facilities into overflow car parks for the hospital. Parking needs to be made a priority within the hospital strategic plans.

And perhaps the little that can be done at the moment is to make parking at the hospital free (as it is in scotland).


Serenity – you make excellent points and I agree with them all.

I think as there is continued pressure on parking spaces, resident only schemes are becoming more commonplace in many areas. At the end of the day, I view it as an additional tax that will slowly and surely creep in across many towns and villages where there is a high population and shortage of land to build car parks. I am not saying that I agree with it, but my view is that this is part of a bigger plan across the country to generate council revenues.

There is no doubt that the hospital creates the parking problems that we face. I am sure that there will be a master plan and car parking strategy in place. Perhaps Oliver could advise on the Council’s input to this and in particular how local residents’ voices are heard.

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Serenity
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Serenity
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 6:09AM
QUOTE=HGrover]
Serenity Wrote:

This is a free public recreational ground car park meant for recreational purposes for local people and not for out of town commuters wanting to use it as an overflow car park for the hospital,be it payed or otherwise.
We're already having to pay the price to be able to park on the road where we live so what next, pay to use our recreational facilities.

Serenity - You make excellent points regarding the parking issues.

The challenges for parking locally are only going to worsen in time and this is simply down to growth, there is little that can be done, but we can be prepared and have sound strategic plans in place.

In an ideal world, the parking would remain free for everyone to enjoy the recreational facilities. Unfortunately, circumstances dictate otherwise.

Oliver is rightly trying to resolve the antisocial behaviour problems and his proposed solution is to only make the car park available at weekends when matches are being played. I was trying to offer a solution that would make the car park more accessible. Unfortunately, the days of free parking whether it be for leisure, retail or commercial use are pretty much gone now.

The hospital will no doubt continue to grow and the parking problems will probably become worse. At least if the car park did become pay and display the revenues would be into the council coffers.
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HGrover yes the hospital has grown and is continuing to grow and that is where the real problem lies. The parking facilities within the hospital haven’t grown with it. This has been an ongoing problem for years and years, I think that the last time that the hospital visited the problem was when they expanding their parking facilities by adding another layer to the existing car park. That was probadly over 15 years ago if not more and unfortunately since then little has been done to try to resolve the ongoing parking problems. Perhaps the way forward would be to to turn the hospital car park into a multi storey car park, similar to the car park at the station.

But forgive me for feeling that what's really pushing the congested parking on isn't the residents only parking signs (we're just trying to park where we live)but the hospital not getting to grips with the problem and looking for ways to provide more parking spaces for their staff and patients within their grounds.

But if the Green Lane car park was to became a pay and display it would significantly increase the traffic flow (yet again) to the area, which has already significantly increased due to drivers constantly circling round looking for free available parking spaces whilst they work at or visit the hospital. Some drivers say they can't find anywhere to park at the hospital and some I'm sure just don't want to pay the car parking charges.

But whatever the reasons, all of these issues are not brought about by the local residents who only want to be able to park where they live. But have over years been made to pay the price to the point that now we're having to pay to park along the road where we live and just expected to put up with the extra traffic and all the pollution and noise that comes with it. Whilst the real source of the problem appears to be doing nothing.

So forgive me for not agreeing with you that the solution is to look to turn nearby recreational facilities into overflow car parks,which is really what your suggesting as one possible solution, be it paid or otherwise. Which in turn will put more stress on nearby road with further increases of traffic.

And yes your right that long term strategic plans are needed. But its the Hospital who should be looking at their long term plans and exploring possible solutions to improving their parking parking problems which have over the years become ours,

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BlueGrover
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BlueGrover
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 8:06AM, Edit: 9th March 2016 at 9:01AM by BlueGrover
Hello HGrover.
I am unsure what the pitch fees are at the moment. My involvement with amateur football ended more than twenty years ago. Grounds were graded. Pitch only, pitch and changing rooms and pitch changing room and showers. There was always a SMBC employee to open and close the changing rooms and he swept them out after the games.
Back in the day my team used the last option and we paid somewhere in the region of £600 per season. One can only guess at what they pay now!
Sorry if I came across a little moody.......
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BlueGrover
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BlueGrover
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 9:01AM
SMBC Pitch fees

GRADE A
PITCH ONLY £ 427 £ 213
PITCH & CHANGING £ 588 £ 297
PITCH CHANGING & £ 781 £ 380
WASHING

GRADE B
PITCH ONLY £ 385 £ 193
PITCH & CHANGING £ 552 £ 276
PITCH CHANGING & £ 718 £ 360
WASHING

GRADE C
PITCH ONLY £ 343 £ 170
PITCH & CHANGING £ 505 £ 250
PITCH CHANGING & £ 677 £ 338
WASHING

MINI SOCCER
PITCH ONLY £170
PITCH AND CHANGING £250
PITCH, CHANGING AND WASHING £335 -
PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS A £70 REDUCTION FOR SELF STAFFING FOR SENIOR TEAMS AND £35 FOR JUNIOR TEAMS
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Serenity
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Serenity
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 12:48PM
BlueGrover If you are a forum moderator can you not update HGrover post😊at the same time you post thankyou
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BlueGrover
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BlueGrover
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 9:17PM
Serenity Wrote:

BlueGrover If you are a forum moderator can you not update HGrover post😊at the same time you post thankyou
Sorry.
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glenandem
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glenandem
Re: Green Lane Car Park
9th March 2016 at 9:53PM
Stockport council should be ashamed of the state they let football pitches get into, years ago there used to be something like 15-20 green keepers now for the whole of Stockport football pitches there's only 2 green keepers, one of the reasons I took my lad away from the Stockport metro league to east Manchester on 3G AstroTurf, miles better!!
Gets a game every weekend on a decent surface.
It's such a shame for the teams that pay silly money for the pitches that aren't being maintained properly and from sept-February are barely playable then summer time they're overgrown.
Just another easy cut back but long term leagues are loosing teams who are dwindling down and going to 5-7 a side on 3/4g surfaces.
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Serenity
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Serenity
Re: Green Lane Car Park
10th March 2016 at 4:09AM
BlueGrover Wrote:

Serenity Wrote:

BlueGrover If you are a forum moderator can you not update HGrover post😊at the same time you post thankyou
Sorry.

That's okay thank you😊
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Serenity
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Serenity
Re: Green Lane Car Park
10th March 2016 at 5:30AM, Edit: 10th March 2016 at 5:36AM by Serenity
HGrover Wrote:

Serenity Wrote:


HGrover I understand that the parking is getting worse and why? Why are the local residents having to pay to park on the road where they live? Why are we even being asked to consider turning our recreational grounds car park into overflow car park for the hospitsl?

Yes the hospital has grown and is continuing to grow and that is the problem the parking facilities within the hospital haven’t grown with it. This is where the real heart of the problem lies and has done for years and years, but unfortunately for the local residents nothing been done to try to sort the lack of parking facilities out. That's really pushing the problem on in my eyes.

If Green Lane car park became pay and display it would increase the flow of traffic to the area and we already suffer badly now, due to drivers looking for free parking spaces instead of paying to park at the hospital.Which you can't blame them.

All of these problems are not the local residents fault but we're made to pay the price by increased traffic and continued parking issues and now were having to pay to park on the road where we live due to congested parking issues.

The parking problems need to be dealt with at source and not turning the nearby streets and facilities into overflow car parks for the hospital. Parking needs to be made a priority within the hospital strategic plans.

And perhaps the little that can be done at the moment is to make parking at the hospital free (as it is in scotland).


Serenity – you make excellent points and I agree with them all.

I think as there is continued pressure on parking spaces, resident only schemes are becoming more commonplace in many areas. At the end of the day, I view it as an additional tax that will slowly and surely creep in across many towns and villages where there is a high population and shortage of land to build car parks. I am not saying that I agree with it, but my view is that this is part of a bigger plan across the country to generate council revenues.

There is no doubt that the hospital creates the parking problems that we face. I am sure that there will be a master plan and car parking strategy in place. Perhaps Oliver could advise on the Council’s input to this and in particular how local residents’ voices are heard.



Yes you're perfectly right HGrover. And yes I can see the financial logic behind the schemes. Never really thought about the probability that by not providing a solution brings in more revenue for the council.

I don't mind the scheme being introduced on our road, Unfortunately it's yet another sign of the times for whatever reason. But I would like to see our scheme improved on and working to create a better living environment for the local residents. What I would like to see is it fully implemented that's the only way it will have any chance of reducing the flow of traffic to the area. And provide enough adequate parking permit spaces for the residents. Who when all said and done pay for the scheme. Sorry HGrover a bit of a soap box rant there. But you do get fed up of half hearted measures. And a scheme that only goes half the way to resolving the problem of traffic and parking issues is so frustrating.

And your right again about needing to know if there are any future plans scheduled to tackle the problem at source and how the local residents will be involved.

What's your views Oliver? There have been a few posters on here that I'm sure would be only to happy to attend a meeting to discuss matters relating to our area.

Oliver you're an excellent councillor but unfortunately trying to get you to answer an email is very difficult. I can appreciate that you must have a lot to go through so would there be any chance that we can have your mobile number again so that we can contact you that way?



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